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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:28:20 -0230 (NDT)
From: David Pike 
To: pike-dna-l@rootsweb.com
Subject: another two results



Hi everybody.

In this message we have details for two new test results, plus a few quick 
news items.




James (kit N113146) initially tested his DNA via the Genographic Project 
and subsequently upgraded to a total of 37 markers once he joined the Pike 
DNA Project.  James traces his Pike line back to a Joseph Saunders PIKE 
who was born at Croydon, Surrey about 1823 and whose father was a Coachman 
who was also named Joseph Saunders PIKE, but then we reach the proverbial 
brick wall in genealogy.  James has no DNA match within our project, so it 
may take some time before we gain more clues to help trace his line.

There is, however, one curiosity that might turn out to be relevant: among 
the small handful of non-Pike matches that James has is a fellow who has 
indicated that his patrilineal ancestor was a Joseph SAUNDERS from 
Buckinghamshire.  What (if any) connection there might be between this 
man's ancestor Joseph SAUNDERS and James' ancestor Joseph Saunders PIKE 
has yet to be fully explored.




Mark tested his uncle James (kit 274050) for 37 markers and discovered a 
36/37 match with Maureen's father Gilbert (62731) in our "Group 6". 
Genealogically, their two lines converge with their ancestors Moses PIKE 
and Nancy WILLIS who married in Massachusetts in 1788.  Gilbert and 
Maureen descend from Moses' son Ephraim, whereas Mark and James descend 
from Moses' son Calvin.

Something particularly interesting is that within "Group 6" we have two 
different DNA profiles occurring among the documented descendants of James 
& Naomi PIKE, who had settled in Massachusetts by 1647.  The genetic match 
between Gilbert and James provides us with confirmation that their 
configuration of markers dates back to at least their ancestor Moses PIKE, 
who was born in 1766.  In time, with additional DNA results from 
descendants of James and Naomi, we may be able to gain further insight 
into when and how we came to have a second DNA profile within "Group 6".




Turning now to some other news, earlier this month I was England for work 
and while there managed to spend a day at the National Archives at Kew 
before flying home.  I photographed all or part of about ten documents, 
and also obtained copies of over 300 wills from the Prerogative Court of 
Canterbury.  The photos I took can be viewed at
    http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/pix/2013/Kew/

Some members of our "Group 1" might want to take a look at the document 
involving Pikes from Hungerford as it might contain some genealogical 
details (I have not yet taken the time to check it in detail).  As for the 
300+ wills, I've put them in a Dropbox folder so that people can access 
them:
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8my4lr93vadjcc2/rrL9sCRBRL

Eventually I'll get around to transcribing most of them and adding them to 
the collection of transcribed wills found on my website at
    http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/

I'll briefly mention that I'm running short on space at Dropbox.  It would 
be helpful if a few people were to join Dropbox (for free) by following 
this link, as I will then be rewarded with some extra disk space for 
having referred people to Dropbox:
    http://db.tt/BCuR7tbe




In case anybody hasn't noticed, Family Tree DNA is in the midst of its 
2013 Summer Sale.  The cost of the 37 and 67 marker Y-DNA tests have been 
reduced, and there is an especially deep discount on the "Family Finder" 
test (which can be taken by both women and men, although please note that 
its results are not directly comparable with the Y-DNA markers that our 
project primarily uses).  The sale ends on July 26th, which means that it 
will be in effect throughout the Pike reunion that will be getting under 
way on Thursday the 18th at/near Salisbury, Massachusetts.


Thanks,

- David.