Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 08:52:09 -0230 (NDT)
From: David Pike 
To: pike-dna-l@rootsweb.com
Subject: three new results



Hi everybody.

We've had several new results come back from the FTDNA lab in the past 
while, but I'll limit myself to just three of them in this message.


To deal with with them in chronological order, the first one to have 
results reported was Terry (kit 196484) who is able to trace his Pike 
lineage back to Samuel Pike and Susannah Butt who married in 1822 at 
Carbonear, Newfoundland.  Terry tested 37 markers and was found to be a 
strong match with our project's "Group 2" which still consists solely of 
Pikes who have origins from Carbonear and its vicinity.  For most of the 
people in our "Group 2" we still do not know just how they are related to 
each other, given the lack of pre-1800 records, but the evidence continues 
to show that there is a very large extended Pike family in the area. 
Incidentally, Terry's DNA is a perfect 25-marker match with several of the 
other "Group 2" members; this is now our project's 39th perfect 25-marker 
match.


The next new result that I'll mention is for Robert (kit 194314), whose 
Pike ancestry has been firmly rooted in the City of Bristol, 
Gloucestershire since at least the late 1700s.  Robert tested 37 markers, 
but unfortunately he isn't a genetic match with any of the current members 
of our project.  Nor is he a close match with anybody else in the FTDNA 
database.  So in this case we will all have to be patient and wait for a 
genetic match to come along.  It is interesting to note though that we 
continue to find "new" Pike families in the British Isles.  Probably there 
are still many other genetic lineages that we have not yet encountered.


Thirdly, Ronald (kit 198453) received the results of his 37-marker test, 
which showed that he belongs to our project's "Group 8".  The members of 
this cluster include Pikes with origins that have been traced to Adair 
County in Kentucky, and Edgefield County in South Carolina.  The earlier 
origins of these families aren't yet known (although a potential 
connection with Derbyshire in England needs to be investigated).


Something else to quickly mention is that Family Tree DNA has recently 
changed the way that they offer "deep clade tests" for confirming people's 
haplogroups.  The new approach not only confirms the basic haplogroup 
(such as "I1", "R1a" or "R1b") but now also refines the determination 
among the currently known subgroups (that is, this refinement is done at 
the same time as the top-level confirmation).  I've had my DNA tested in 
this manner already, with the results being that I (and probably everybody 
else in "Group 2") belong to the "R1b1a2a1a1b4" subgroup of the "R1b" 
haplogroup, because I carry the "L21" marker but not any of the currently 
listed markers below it.  For more information, click on the "Haplotree" 
link in the left-side menu when you login to your personal webpage at 
www.familytreedna.com and then click on the haplogroup letter (such as 
"R") on the right-side of the screen to see the substructure of your 
haplogroup and what is known of your place within it.

Thanks,

- David.