Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:54:34 -0230 (NDT)
From: David Pike 
To: pike-dna-l@rootsweb.com
Subject: A match for Group 6 and our first Haplogroup Q



Hi everybody.

Today's email update begins with "Group 6" which is for the family of 
James PIKE who settled at Charleston, Massachusetts in the 1640s and who 
had moved to Reading, Massachusetts by 1654.  James fathered four sons 
(James, Jeremiah, John and Zachariah) three of whom had families of their 
own.

With the latest DNA results from Harl (kit 179514), we now have results 
from three descendants of Jeremiah.  Only Harl has tested beyond 25 
markers, so we now have our first glimpse of markers 26-37 from Jeremiah's 
branch of the tree and they are consistent with what we have seen with 
other members of Group 6.  One thing that is interesting is that Harl 
shares a value of 12 on marker #4 with three other members of Group 6. 
It might be that this value is indicative of a particular branch of the 
family tree for this group, but it's too early for us to tell (we need 
many more test results before we see enough of the big picture to be 
sure).  The markers for Group 6 and an updated mini-family tree that shows 
Harl's position in the family appear at: 
http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=results.html#Group6



The other main piece of news to report is for Shelly (kit 177549) who was 
able to track down a cousin of her grandfather in to find a male PIKE to 
contribute a DNA sample for analysis.  When Shelly first contacted us, she 
only knew her ancestry back to Daniel Lumley PIKE who had been born in 
England but moved to the USA around 1860 and had settled in Oregon by 
1880.

With the aid of several resources (including information that I've been 
gathering with the help of the Guild of One-Name Studies in the UK), we 
were able to pinpoint the birthplace of Daniel Lumley PIKE as being the 
village of Tredington in Gloucestershire and then extend Shelly's line by 
another four generations into Berkshire (specifically, to the villages of 
Stanford in the Vale, East Hanney and Appleton, all three of which are 
within about five miles of each other).  Dark blue or purple pushpins [I'm 
not sure what colour they are] for Shelly's line have now been added to 
our map of PIKE lineages in the British Isles at 
http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=results.html#Map

Shelly had her grandfather's cousin tested for 37 markers.  When the 
results were first reported, we knew for sure that we were looking a new 
genetic signature for our project: at 12 markers, Shelly's closest match 
in our project was a total of 10 marker values away, at 25 markers the 
closest match is 17 differences away, and at 37 markers the closest match 
was 25 differences away.  As you can see these "matches" aren't at all 
close, and so this brings the tally of genetically different PIKE lineages 
in our project up to 48 (19 of which we are able to trace back into the 
British Isles).

Regarding the haplogroup for Shelly's PIKE line, the initial prediction by 
Family Tree DNA was Haplogroup Q.  Family Tree DNA has a very good 
prediction algorithm and so they don't usually perform the special test 
needed to confirm a haplogroup.  But since the profile for Shelly's line 
was one that Family Tree DNA hadn't tested before, they performed a free 
confirmation test.  Specifically, this is one of the SNP tests that any of 
us can order from the "Haplotree" link on our personal pages at Family 
Tree DNA.  Anyway, back to Shelly, we now have confirmation that Q is 
indeed the correct haplogroup for her PIKE line, which is now the first Q 
in our project.

As for the history of Haplogroup Q, that is a story that is still being 
discovered.  It appears to have had its origins in central Asia around 
20,000 years ago and has since spread out into Europe, Asia, and also into 
the Americas where the Q1a3a subgroup is the dominant haplogroup of 
indigenous peoples.  In contrast to its high frequency in the Americas, 
Haplogroup Q is very rare in Europe, so it really is a special treat for 
us to have one of these rare European Q's in our PIKE project.



Meanwhile, something else that is new is that ISOGG (the International 
Society of Genetic Genealogy) now has its own Wiki at 
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page
It is new and still under development, but it already has a lot of useful 
information about genealogical DNA tests.



- David.