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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:19:01 -0330 (NST)
From: David Pike 
To: pike-dna-l@rootsweb.com
Subject: Two New Results



Hi everybody.

In this email bulletin we have some details about two new results from the 
FamilyTreeDNA lab, an update about DNA testing at 23andMe, and a reminder 
of the soon-to-end sale on Y-DNA testing at FamilyTreeDNA.



1. Group 16

New 37-marker results have been reported by the FamilyTreeDNA lab for kit 
163429.  The closest match in our project is with kit 160783.  These two 
kits match on 36 out of 37 markers, and so kit 163429's results have been 
put into our project's "Group 16"
http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=results.html#Group16

So far none of the members of "Group 16" have made any details of their 
Pike ancestry public, so I can't yet say more about this group.



2. Group 14 - Pikes from Truro, MA

Jesse (kit 164823) tested 12 markers.  As far as I have been able to tell, 
Jesse is the only person in the FamilyTreeDNA database with his particular 
set of 12 marker values.

However, he does match two other Pikes on 11 of his 12 markers, namely 
Rexford (60427) and kit 133186 who are in our project's "Group 14"
http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=results.html#Group14

Their 12 marker results also seem to be a bit rare (albeit not as rare as 
Jesse's).  Although matches that score 11 out of 12 markers can sometimes 
be ambiguous as to whether they are just coincidence or really a 
genealogical match, given the rarity here it seems probable that Jesse 
also fits into Group 14 and that somebody (possibly one of Jesse's Pike 
ancestors) experienced a mutation on one of the first 12 markers.

Regarding the origins of "Group 14" Rexford has provided ancestral details 
that trace his line back to a Leonard Pike who lived at Truro, 
Massachusetts in the early 1700s and possibly also the late 1600s.



3. 23andMe

Back in September several members of our project took advantage of a 
special promotion to do a genome-wide DNA scan with 23andMe.  As a quick 
reminder, 23andMe is in the early stages of developing genealogical tools 
based on DNA other than the Y-chromosome (which means that their tests can 
be done by both men and women).  So that people might have some way of 
knowing who within our project has tested with 23andMe, I've begun to 
update our project's "Results" page to insert a version of the 23andMe 
logo beside the names of people who have tested with 23andMe and have 
agreed to have the logo displayed beside their name.  To see examples, the 
logo is now found beside my name (kit 23996) in the results for "Group 2" 
and also beside Stuart's name (kit 48191) in "Group 6": 
http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=results.html

If you've tested at 23andMe and want a logo beside your name, then send me 
an email message to let me know.

Eventually I plan to put together a webpage that discusses 23andMe and how 
to interpret some of their test results, but in the meantime there's an 
introductory webpage on the website of ISOGG (the International Society of 
Genetic Genealogy):  http://www.isogg.org/23andme1.html

The new "Relative Finder" tool at 23andMe is still being beta tested and 
should hopefully be fully launched in January.  Until then, anybody who 
has tested at 23andMe and wants to try this tool now can find it at 
https://www.23andme.com/you/relfinder/

In a nutshell this utility looks for chunks of DNA that people have in 
common and which ought to have been inherited from a common ancestor 
somewhere in their pedigrees.  If you "Share Genomes" in the 23andMe 
system with somebody who has some DNA in common with you, then you can see 
where it lies in your genome by using the "Family Inheritance" tool.  By 
communicating with people that have DNA in common with you, and comparing 
what you each know about your pedigrees, it is sometimes possible to 
identify your common ancestor(s).

One thing that I should mention is that the phrase "Genome Sharing" is a 
bit misleading, because at the "Basic" level of sharing there really isn't 
much of anything that is revealed.  Feel free to share with me or Stuart 
if you want to test out the sharing feature on us before sharing with 
other people.

One more note:  23andMe's primary competitor, deCODEme, is offering free 
access to their services to 23andMe customers who upload their 23andMe 
results into the deCODEme database.  This is only available for a limited 
(and unspecified) time.  More details are at: 
http://www.decodeme.com/data-upload
If you want to do this, then you'll have to first download your Raw Data 
from 23andMe, which can be done from the "Account -- Browse Raw Data" link 
near the top right corner of the 23andMe website.



4. FTDNA Sale

Back to traditional Y-chromosome testing at FamilyTreeDNA, I want to 
remind people that the current sale on newly-ordered 37 and 67 marker 
tests will end on December 31st.



- David.