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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:41:40 -0230 (NDT)
From: David Pike 
To: pike-dna-l@rootsweb.com
Subject: Two Items



Hi everybody.

There are two news items in this email update.  The first one is that
FamilyTreeDNA is having a sale until June 24th, whereby the 37-marker
Y-DNA test, combined with a mtDNA test, is being offered at a much reduced
price.

The other news item pertains to Kevin (kit 67713) who recently upgraded
his results to 67 markers.  As for Kevin's lineage, it can be traced back
to Robert PIKE and Annie ANDERSON who married in 1781 at Fort Wilkinson,
Pennsylvania.  Some more details about Robert can be found at:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyestill/family/pike/pike02.htm

Almost two years ago, when Kevin's initial DNA results came back from the
lab, it was reported that he had no Pike DNA matches.  He still has no
Pike matches.  However, from the outset Kevin did have a small handful of
25-marker perfect matches with some non-Pikes.  Among these were several
descendants of a fellow named Littleberry BAUGHAN of Henrico County,
Virginia and who lived about 1753-1806, as well as with a few men having
the surnames FARRIS and STONE.

The prospect of a possible Pike-Baughan/Farris/Stone connection has been
an intriguing one.  When Kevin upgraded to 37 markers he continued to have
some perfect matches listed on his personal website with FamilyTreeDNA.
And now that he's upgraded to 67 markers, it's still the case that there
are some perfect matches.  Perfect 67-marker matches are somewhat rare,
and within our own project we've only ever witnessed a single perfect
67-marker match (within our "Group 8").  So it's *really* looking as
though Kevin is biologically related to the Baughan, Farris, and Stone
families in some way that isn't currently known (and likewise, that these
branches of the Baughan, Farris, and Stone families are related to each
other via their direct paternal ancestral lines too).

As for how this might have occurred, it could due to any number of
scenarios, a few of which include:

   - an adoption of a male child into a family with a different surname
   - a male child born out of wedlock taking his mother's surname
   - somebody deliberately changing their surname

The descendants of Littleberry Baughan already know that he is an
illegitimate son of Susannah Baughan.  A detailed account about
Littleberry and the effort to try to use DNA testing to help determine who
his father might have been has been posted on the website for the Baughan
DNA Project run by Edward Robson.  The website is at:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Baughan%20Family/default.aspx
and here's the report about Littleberry:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~baughandna/DNA_Results/analysis_of_baughan_ferris_stone_connection.pdf

One possibility not yet incorporated into this report is that it could be
that Littleberry's father was a Pike.  However, it might also be that
Kevin's Pike ancestry hails from a non-Pike ancestor (possibly a Farris or
a Stone).  As yet we just don't have enough information to allow us to
draw any conclusions one way or another.  But thanks to DNA testing, we
are at least able to ask some pointed questions that we would not have
thought to ask otherwise.

As for how to move forward, two options come to mind.  One is to try to
find out just where Kevin's ancestor Robert Pike came from, which is
something that has so far eluded all effort... any help with this would be
much appreciated!  The other option is to seek out other Pike families,
get them involved in our DNA project, and then use any genetic matches
with Kevin to help establish the Pike origins of Kevin's particular
genetic profile.

- David.