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To: pike-dna-l@rootsweb.com
Date: Wed,  6 Feb 2008 17:15:02 -0330 (NST)
From: dapike@math.mun.ca (David Pike)
Subject: [PIKE-DNA] Some New Results

Hi everybody.

It's been about 2 months since our project's last update, partly
because we went through a brief lull in new results.  However, now
that we've had some results come back from the lab, it's time to
say a few words about them.

Let me start with Joshua (kit 102342), who tested all 67 markers.
We now have the complete set of results and find that Joshua is a
near perfect match with Sara's brother Marvin (61285) as well as
Keith (80666)... Joshua matches both of them on 66 out 67 markers,
which very strongly indicates that there is a Pike family relationship.
As yet we cannot say what this relationship might be though, as we
only have details of the Pike ancestry for Marvin, whose Pike ancestry
has been traced back into Kentucky in the very early 1800s.

In January, the 25-marker results for kit 106126 came back from
the lab.  These results were a perfect 25-marker match with several
of the participants in our project's "Group 2", for whom we only
have Pike lineages that have been traced back to the vicinity of
Carbonear in Newfoundland.

Besides the above new results, we've also had a few upgrades of
results.  For instance, Karen (61277) had the DNA results for her
brother refined from 25 to 37 markers.  At 25 markers, Karen's
brother was a good match with several other people in our project's
"Group 6" (which represents the descendants of James and Naomi Pike
who settled in Charlestown and Reading, Massachusetts in the 1640s).
The upgrade to 37 markers resulted in an even stronger match with
between Karen's brother and several others, giving us even stronger
evidence that Karen fits into the family tree somewhere, even though
just where is still not known with certainty.

Another upgrade was done by Gilbert (62731), who is also included
within "Group 6".  I should point out that "Group 6" continues to be
somewhat enigmatic, as we have at least two genetic signatures in
this family, suggesting that there may have been an adoption or
perhaps an illegitimate birth of a son by a Pike woman somewhere in
the family's history.  Of the three branches of the family tree for
James & Naomi, two of them have matching signatures; the third
branch, which is Gilbert's, is therefore the one that we currently
suspect is most likely the one with the adoption/whatever in its
history.  As for Gilbert's upgrade to 37 markers, it now lets us
do a better comparison with Jesse (69482), who is a perfect 25-marker
match with Gilbert.  At 37 markers, Jesse and Gilbert are not a
perfect match, but they do match on 35 markers (and, moreover, the
2 markers where they differ are markers that are more prone to
mutate than most others)... so Jesse and Gilbert continue to be a
very close, and likely meaningful, match.

Incidentally, Gilbert's upgrade to 37 markers has another benefit.
On Gilbert's personal webpage with FamilyTreeDNA, he has a handful
of 25-marker matches listed with other non-Pike clients of FamilyTreeDNA.
Several of these are shown to have tested up to 37 markers, and so now
Gilbert is also able to see how his DNA compares with theirs.  As it
happens, the only 37-marker match that is listed is with Jesse,
indicating that several people that 25-marker results suggested might
be relatives have now been eliminated as potential relatives thanks to
differences between their markers #26-37 and those of Gilbert.
If people are curious about how they can check to see what non-Pikes
their DNA might match with, some instructions on how this can be done
can be found at
http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/pike/DNA/index.php?content=whatelse.html

Take care,

- David.